And that is Sithis' goal. What to do with it? Here's what I've got for you and your 11 questions. A Podcast from the Grey Maybe of the Elder Scrolls. 8tracks radio. The character called CHEMUA in Sermon 9 is sometimes called First Blighter, according to that sermon. The bigger picture involves Azura and the Tribunal. Waiting. Good and Evil, Bird and Serpent, Order and Chaos. Don't aim to defeat people. P. S. 11) If my viewpoint in the 3 question is right, then, did/could Vivec give his Hortator place to Nerevarine with giving the Wraithguard? We have this line from Nerevar at Red Mountain: House Dagoth had discovered the source of the profane and secret power of the Dwemer: the legendary Heart of Lorkhan, which Dumac’s people had used to make themselves immortal and beyond the measure of the gods. And the same with Hortator. However, Enrico Dandolo has also pointed out that the Akkadian phrase “king of the land” can be constructed as “shar mat”. Eventually, "divine" secrets were exposed as naturally occurring parts of nature, and from that you have the oppurtunity to derive powers from the Heart using the scientific methods aforementioned. At that point, Voryn Dagoth "died", and Dagoth Ur was "born". In fact, one of the their high priests, Kagrenac, was building a New God so that the Dwemer could claim Resdayn for their own. I call them the Light and the Dark. How to use hortatory in a sentence. When he comes again, so too does the Hortator now wearing … "Hortator and Sharmat, one and one, eleven, an inelegant number. Like the Light and the Dark, the pattern of the Hortator and Sharmat sets up two elements in opposition, but I'm not sure where to place the Tribunal in this pattern, but on the mythic scale they were no obstacle. Take a second to support Aramithius on Patreon! Maybe that’s all there is to the Sharmat, and the Blight. That subversion of what already exists isn’t the NO of nonexistence, it’s the corruption of existence into a single form. Is it a mirror of the void or not? - Voryn Dagoth was an honorable mer, much less treasonous than Vivec, Almalexia, and Sotha Sil. That’s the role that Vivec is assigning hirself here, and marks the Hortator specifically to face Dagoth Ur in Sermon 17: “But they both knew that the time was not ready to contest the Sharmat and so they engaged in combat with each other. However, mortals are naturally inclined to fall prey to the temptations of the Heart of Lorkhan, and this happened to Voryn Dagoth. Or is it only a specific name for Dagoth Ur (and, accordingly, Nerevar)? Tumblr is a place to express yourself, discover yourself, and bond over the stuff you love. There’s also the idea that Lorkhan is acting as the avatar of the Heart, with a little caveat on what the Dwemer were up to. The Sharmat is his double, and therefore you wonder if you rule nothing. The Sharmat gets called the “false dreamer” several times in the 36 Lessons, and is associated with “the wrong walking path” in Sermon 15. I should, again, let you know, that he considers game (Morrowind particularly) fundamental, and I consider lore fundamental. tagged → #talise #nerevarine #voryn dagoth #dagoth ur #morrowind #divine shadows #i just have a lot of feelings about these two okay??? Sharmat and Miraak. Is it only a source of god powers or a source of sharmatic powers? Or is it only a specific name for Dagoth Ur (and, accordingly, Nerevar)? Given that, Dagoth Ur and the Dwemer, and perhaps importantly the Numidium and Akulakhan, have quite different agendas. 10) Finally, last one! The Sharmat, or at least Dagoth Ur, literally transforms the land through his presence, so it fits that whole idea quite well. Power is derived not from an external source but from acting in these roles in such a way that the conflict resembles that of Anu and Padomay. - stream 4 dagoth ur playlists including morrowind, voryn dagoth, and Bastille music from your desktop or mobile device. Your hands once were idle, now through them do I speak. It is not a mirror of the void; Alas, one cannot exist without the other, and they are both necessary parts of the cosmic machine which comprises everything, everywhere, everytime. This is driven home a little further by Sermon 36, which gives Kagrenac the title of “the Blighter”. That the Rebel will defeat the King, but we do not know who the Rebel and King are until the Observer decides which is which. Could you ever tell if they switched places?” Reblog - 2 years ago with 24 notes. - Sermons. Lyrics by Drago Vocals & Composition By Sharm Luhn-silvar, hortator, Azura'm gah'amer, Panthi-seht, sharmat-dra, ouabihn biridar, Osuhn almese sut ohm yalif sul devahr, Nerevar, Nerevar. Are there any other arguments I can defeat Mike with (:D), or there aren’t any until he changes his mind about the things in the second paragraph? Which of the ones is the more important? Am I… no, that wouldn’t be here. The beginning of this thought is from Sermon 11, where it says this: ‘”There is no true symbolism of the center. “First Blighter” is harder to explain away, though. Vivec marked the Hortator in this way for all of the Velothi to see.”. They understand they are in the Dream, but are not connected to everyone else. Vivec has a unique perspective into this plot, from the angle of CHIM, where he would be able to perceive the All of it. 8tracks is Radio, rediscovered - Hortator and Sharmat by NerevarIndoril| music tags: | Today on Written in Uncertainty we’re talking about an enemy of the Chimer and Dunmer people, who has stalked throughout their history, haunted their dreams, and threatens to remake not just Morrowind, but also the entire Aurbis from the inside out. the same with Hortator and Lorkhan), got his powers from a padomaic artifact? The guy is even making a second Numidium. The document Dagoth Ur’s Plans, written by the Tribunal Temple, claims that “Dagoth Ur has apparently adopted the views and motivations of the Dwemer High Craftlord Kagrenac.” This suggests that it is the Dwemer, not Dagoth Ur necessarily, that is the source of the Sharmat’s motivation. It feels quite obvious that Dagoth is following some pre-established pattern, which means that the Sharmat is older than Dagoth, and different from Dagoth. The Main Character in Morrowind succeeded in becoming Hortator in great part because Vivec allowed it. In an argument about duality, his goals on their own are irrelevant. :) Can I, like, somehow separate Voryn Dagoth and Sharmat within Dagoth Ur but still consider them a unit, one creature? 'They are the bottom row of the world’s teeth.’” –Excerpt from 36 Lessons of Vivec, Sermon 17, most likely describing a glitch from The Elder Scrolls Adventure: Redguard uesp . I can and that is why you will need me. the same with Hortator and Lorkhan), got his powers from a padomaic artifact? lordnerevar liked this . Does that mean that what one wants is the goal of the other one and vice versa? 6) Am I… no, that wouldn’t be here. They are not untouchable, supernatural beings, but are, in fact, very physical beings from which the physical laws of the Elder Scrolls Universe are anchored around (spokes within a wheel within a wheel theory). :D. And now, what I want to ask you about. 8) Yeah, too many questions… Sorry. I think there’s the intent to involve that sort of creeping fear and so on into the thematic of Dagoth Ur, particularly the cultish stuff, where dreams are also frequently invoked, but there’s also a deeper Elder Scrolls theme going on here. - It is a source of both. The Sharmat is his double, and therefore you wonder if you rule nothing." It is a universe in which the space-time continuum is extemely unstable, and the chances of destabilization grow higher when Mytheopeic forces are tampered with (afterall, the universe within which Nirn exists derives all of its physical laws from a foundation of base Mytheopeic forces to begin with). understanding this is absolutely necessary in understanding the wonderfully complex and creative story of The Elder Scrolls. This especially holds if you don't share the same basic assumptions. Unfollow. All rights reserved. The heart cannot exist without Nirn, and Nirn cannot exist without the heart. He is opposed by the Hortator. As I recall, Ur was with the Tribunal, so much so that Nerevar charged him with protecting the heart while he (N) confered with the Tribunal. This means that the Heart was potentially becoming something else through the Dwemer’s actions, and corrupting it. What's, then, the role of stasis and chaos? The Morrowind Main Quest. In point 4 I meant that nobody can destroy Sharmat but Hortator (it's a thing that Vivec tells us about in Sermons) and he must destroy him, otherwise the world is viped out. All Rights Reserved. Seduction would be a valid way to defeat the Hortator. Red Mountain exploded as the Hortator went too far inside, seeking the Sharmat. - Your friend Mike is right. Playmoss uses cookies. That man’s (let’s call him Mike) position is: there is no mysterious Sharmat and Hortator, they aren’t connected to Anuiel/Auriel and Sithis/Lorkhan accordingly anyhow, and the final — all these theories are stupid and my goal is to lie and tangle everyone. The Sharmat will believe there is. "Hortator is a Latin word meaning (inciter; encourager, exhorter, urger)." 874 notes. This is essentially saying that Dagoth Ur was striving for a form of stasis as his ultimate goal. Curses beneath the mountain… Hear me, Incarnate! In this, the 36 Lessons are calling out that Hortator and Sharmat are two parts of an enantiomorph, and highlighting that they are two roles in an ongoing cycle of conflict. :( Still, what role does Lorkhan’s Heart play? In point 3 I meant that Vivec could replace Nerevar and be a deputy or a sort of place-keeper of Hortator without really being (or playing) its role just to keep balance. Which of the ones is the more important? Here do you toil, that you might remember. However, it’s possible that they are not. For the next question, we’ll be looking at why the notion of an empire of Tamriel is so persistent, and why it’s so important to everyone, even when it might well not be. It is more likely he was "keeping" or "holding" the place of hortator due to a desperate attempt to maintain Tribunal control over Morrowind, as opposed to the Number of the master (11). If anything, the only true competing forces to ever exist were Sharmat+Tribunal VS. Time, as it was only a matter of time before the Heart was destroyed. It doesn't infuse Dagoth with "Sharmatness" is role as the villain of the story does that. See more. Again, why? So. Dagoth Ur only faced the Nerevarine once, and, in sound step with the above statement, lost. The Sharmat and the Hortator merely represent competing interests on a small scale. Yeah, too many questions… Sorry. Vivec is a liar for him and he doesn’t believe his Lessons (though he couldn’t prove that they are all a big lie when I asked him to), as well as all my words. Maybe, if we take the linguistic route; this is purely me speculating, but if “blight” originally just meant “bad thing”, then we’re possibly looking at the Sharmat, and the Blighter before it, as purely a social construct that was used to denote “thing we all hate”, or something like that. And Ayem would ever guide the Hortator, closer to him than his jugular vein. The Sharmat Dagoth Ur used two things extensively in his conqust, that is the divine disease Corprus and dreams. If anything, the only true competing forces to ever exist were Sharmat+Tribunal VS. Time, as it was only a matter of time before the Heart was destroyed. - stream 3 voryn dagoth playlists including dagoth ur, morrowind, and Bastille music from your desktop or mobile device. The Sharmat will believe there is. Lorkhan is both the deadest of the Aedra, having had his heart ripped out, and the most alive, in the form of Shezzarines. This has been developed by some fans, most particularly IceFireWarden, into the idea that a form of “Anti-CHIM” exists. This is why Mephala has black hands. However, accepting the premise that the Nerevarine *Must* defeat Da goth Ur, it is a mute point to dicuss Dagoth Ur defeating the Nerevarine. Or what is it then? Could you ever tell if they switched places? I had a lore-themed discussion with a user of a forum from the other side, and our topic was, initially, about Sharmat and Hortator duality. I can and that is why you will need me. The Sharmat would maintain its place, and the Dreaming Godhead would become the Hortator. "Hortator and Sharmat, one and one, eleven, an inelegant number. Hortator is *not* a name for Nerevar (Or the Nerevarine, for that matter). Has anyone compiled a story that squares with all accounts by calling out certain lies and distortions? History is understanding. :). Everywhere and everywhen. Also, is that because of his (Sharmat's) fourth walking way? 5) Am I also right when I say that Sharmat doesn’t need to defeat Hortator and can convince him to join and thus Hortator shall still be defeated? Am I right when I say that Sharmat’s goal is stasis? In that case, what sort of thing is the Sharmat? 9) Another one connected with previous: how could it happen that a simulacrum of Auriel, Sharmat (is he or not, by the way? The Selectives Lorecast episode on Dagoth Ur made the point that the Numidium and Akulakhan (the golem Dagoth Ur was building) had different objectives. I can and that is why you will need me. Right? This inverts I AM AND I ARE ALL WE understanding of CHIM, where the understanding of a shared being is a core part of it, and changes it to I AM AND YOU ARE ALL ME. :). I definitely recall something compiling the differing views of the battle, though I can't remember where it was. Wow. You should do some in depth research on your own to better enjoy the lore behind the heart, but in short, the heart is literally the heart of Lorkhan, the supernatural entity which, in essence, created the world of Nirn (and the imprisonment of Lorkhan's heart within Red Mountain as some degree of punishment, according to some Lunar Lorkhan Mythos). 7) Also, is Sharmat… um… how to say… not a role, but a thing that everyone can become? If Vivec was a place-keeper of Hortator, did he make Nerevarine a real Hortator by giving him the Wraithguard? 6) Am I… no, that wouldn’t be here. Yet the last Sharmat failed his role, desiring to stay among the Gods, thus staining the divine realm with vanity and pride. If we look at some of Nibani Maesa’s words, I think we will get a bit more of an answer. Am I right when I say that Vivec ‘kept’ or ‘held’ the place of Hortator before the last Nerevarine came to Vvardenfell to equal the Number of Master? This is made it’s most explicit in Sermon 11 of the 36 Lessons, which says: “Hortator and Sharmat, one and one, eleven, an inelegant number. I’m not sure I entirely buy this, although he was looking back to pre-Tribunal Resdayn for inspiration, as well as moving the Blight into all of Tamriel. Online, everywhere. The Hortator/Nerevarine "Must" defeat Dagoth Ur because of a rather simple logical leap: He/She is outfitted with the tools and knowledge to destroy the heart. This is why the Sharmat is a False Dreamer, because they are not the Dreamer but trying to become one, and make the self, the “centre” of Sermon 11, the core of all being. The bigger picture involves Azura and the Tribunal. Did you ever consider that Ghostfence was built not only to keep Sixth House contained, but also to *protect* entrance to very heart which sustained their very powers? It was a walking star , which burnt the armies of the Triune and destroyed the heartland of Veloth , creating the Inner Sea . Could you ever tell if they switched places? Sharmat/Hortator are not representative of Anuiel/Auriel or Sithis/Lorkhan, respectively. Which of the ones is the more important? xhristcentred liked this . - Absolutely. If we take the Numidium’s behaviour in general and in the text Landfall: Day One in particular as what happens, then it’s about eliminating things from existence. Whose side was Dagoth Ur on? He will feel that he can cause years of exuberance from sitting in the sacred, when really no one can leave that state and cause anything more but strife.’. This suggests that the Dwemer were already using the Heart of Lorkhan, which leaves them open to being influenced by the Heart in some way before their disappearance. Even the most cherished desire disappears in their hands. Hear me...Not now… not yet. Который из них важнее? And the same with Hortator. Obviously, this had drastic and far-reaching consequences for almost all of the Dwemer, which might suggest that tampering with such forces, as they are, in fact, directly conected to the physical laws of the universe itself, might be counterproductive. Song created and performed by LIZ KATRIN (www.lizkatrinmusic.com) for SKYWIND (The Elder Scrolls mod). 7) Also, is Sharmat… um… how to say… not a role, but a thing that everyone can become? And, sorry, I didn't quite understand that phrase: "to the goals of his other". These two share much closer connections. the same with Hortator and Lorkhan), got his powers from a padomaic artifact? Hortatory definition, urging to some course of conduct or action; exhorting; encouraging: a hortatory speech. Another one connected with previous: how could it happen that a simulacrum of Auriel, Sharmat (is he or not, by the way? We can also make the Dwemer match this description, if we squint a little. In this, the 36 Lessons are calling out that Hortator and Sharmat are two parts of an enantiomorph, and highlighting that they are two roles in an ongoing cycle of conflict. Despite its use in Tribunal theology, the term isn’t exclusive to the Tribunal Temple. Though I believe there are accounts to the contrary, this seems like the most likely scenario imo, though he could have had secret alliances besides. Share your thoughts, experiences and the tales behind the art. That the Rebel will defeat the King, but we do not know who the Rebel and King are until the Observer decides which is which. We also have another Blighter in the 36 Lessons, although we know very little about him for sure. In this, the 36 Lessons are calling out that Hortator and Sharmat are two parts of an enantiomorph, and highlighting that they are two roles in an ongoing cycle of conflict. It explains the existence of the Tribunal gods and Dagoth Ur and provides a vunrability of Dagoth Ur that comes at a great cost to the Tribunal. First, I want to think about where else we’ve seen this sort of thing. Well it's been a while since I touched on this. The document outlining Dagoth Ur’s suspected plans that the Tribunal Temple put together suggest that Dagoth Ur wants to take over Morrowind and spread the Blight across Tamriel. He could have easily had the Main Character inquisitioned by the Temple by Divine Decree. :) Can I, like, somehow separate Voryn Dagoth and Sharmat within Dagoth Ur but still consider them a unit, one creature? You said you didn't know where to place Tribunal. Is it only a source of god powers or a source of sharmatic powers? “Hortator and Sharmat, one and one, eleven, an inelegant number. This is the third of the three lessons of ruling kings, revealed on the road to Muat. And why wasn't the wraithmail idea put in the game, damnit? The Selectives pointed out that this isn’t what Dagoth Ur wants, or at least, insofar as we understand what he wants. That the Rebel will defeat the King, but we do not know who the Rebel and King are until the Observer decides which is which. Also, is Sharmat… um… how to say… not a role, but a thing that everyone can become? - Within the context of the Elder Scrolls Universe, it is important to realize that it is bound by a different set of Physical Laws than our very own. "The Hortator said, ‘The edge of the world is made of swords.’ "Vivec corrected him. At first, Hortator is King and the Sharmat Rebels; his rebellion is a failure, though he survives and waits away. Dagoth Ur only faced the Nerevarine once, and, in sound step with the above sta. The Dwemer, through the scientific method alone, discovered the patterns of effects upon the physical laws of nature through tampering with the heart of Lorkhan. Remember that Nibani Maesa said that Dagoth Ur is dead but dreams he lives? Or what is it then? I can and that is why you will need me.”. Am I also right when I say that Sharmat doesn’t need to defeat Hortator and can convince him to join and thus Hortator shall still be defeated? Is it a mirror of the void or not? Could you ever tell if they switched places? Your eyes once were blinded, now through me do you see. Taking that logically, the wish to extend the Blight throughout Tamriel, and ultimately Mundus, is something that Lorkhan wants. - Here's where you have to throw preconcieved notions about the Daedra Lords out of the window. 8tracks radio. Could you ever tell if they switched places? "When we UNDERSTAND the events that occur to us, the events become history. — because it can’t be proved through the game. Azura won from the very moment the Tribunal became Limited Gods and she laid her curse/prophecy upon them...not because Azura has magical abilities to curse and alter reality, but more than likely because Azura can perform the massive amounts of calculations based upon unwavering laws of the universe, similar to a theoretical superintelligent computer, where cause and effect merely led to deterministic outcome. - Within the context of the Elder Scrolls Universe, it is important to realize that it is bound by a different set of Physical Laws than our very own. :). In Day One, which I should point out is an unlicensed text, for those of you that keep track, the Altmer are wiped out of existence by an “Ancestroscythe”. As far as I understood you, Sharmat and Hortator are roles that people may or may not play; playing these roles reproduce controversy of Anu and Padomay and thereby gives "actors" some sort of power. UESP The Elder Scrolls Redguard Morrowind Nerevar Vivec Lore Easter Egg Glitch. The biggest support for this is Miraak’s chant: <“Here in my temple, here in my shrine, that you have forgotten. Otherwise we're all just dumb animals trying to get in out of the cold. She says that Dagoth Ur is “dead, but he dreams he lives”. Song arranged and performed by LIZ KATRIN (https://lizkatrinmusic.com) for SKYWIND (The Elder Scrolls mod). Rather think of it as a debate and aim to make your position and arguments clear to the crowd. This is why Mephala has black hands. 11) If my viewpoint in the 3 question is right, then, did/could Vivec give his Hortator place to Nerevarine with giving the Wraithguard? The idea of Anti-CHIM is that the Sharmat looks on the Aurbic Wheel, the wheel thatis the spokes of the Aedra, the gaps in between of the Daedra and the hub of Mundus, and assumes that they are the entirety of the I, that they are not part of the Dream, but that the Dream is part of them. - Logically, what you say is valid and sound. It's where your interests connect you with your people. Sharmat and Hortator, they are just roles for people to play, anybody can play. Until then, this podcast reamins a letter written in uncertainty. It suffices that they are opposites, and totally antithetical.- Light and Dark, This is clearly attested by ANU and his double, which love knows never really happened.- Sermons. I imagine the Sharmat/Hortator link had about as definitive answers as you're gonna find without the devs giving some sort of dictionary definition. This theory takes that idea that Dagoth Ur is actually dead, and the heart is what’s steering him. 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