It … The equips sign in the above post was supposed to be a minus sign. Anyways, TES lore is original enough without it. MP] miała toczyć się na Wyspach Summerset. It’s the same with outside material. But I never have heard even once about this stuff. P.S. Because yeah, it's not a series with a single and objective description (such as Nasuverse is), but there are things that remain objective. In-universe, these are all quotes from Frandar Hunding. Michael Kirkbride has also said that N'Gasta the Sload was based off of him wanting to draw Jabba the Hutt. So, if some of his writings are clearly weird (and a bit hard to understand), there are many of his out-game textes that are a really great source of explaining the complex TES lore. FUCK YEAH I WROTE LINES FOR DARTH VADER. Anyways, TES lore is original enough without it. This is part of a larger deal Waldron has signed at Disney, that is … MK lore doesn't have that. It shall feel alien, it does to me too and I feel uncomfortable thinking this happened. It’s open-source. It was before Anu and Padomay started interacting. The work he did for Bethesda has contributed greatly to fleshing out the world of The Elder Scrolls, that no one can deny. Aka and Lorkhan become one again - When was the last time these two opponents and their metaphorical "fathers" were one? It's fun to produce a good headcanon as this, but as long as it isn't put into the original material, it remains HEADcanon. Od razu go to zaintrygowało. Nasu, the author of the Fate series, of Tsukihime and so on worked on a multiverse way better than this. In this timeline, all the stuff that we know from TES has happened as well, pretty much the same way. Sorry about that. It is in my opinion good to mention that theses informations exist and could be accurate, even if a little warning is needed, due to their specific nature. But they are, whatever situation they may be in, still bound to their programming and will act accordingly. And of course it's all mystically written, it requires to be done like that. MK's out-of-game writings are controversial because there are just some ridiculous things in them. The paper has little dots and scribbles here and there, but there is plenty of blank, white spaces in between each marking. Otherwise they would lose a lot of players and therefore a lot of $. After leaving Bethesda he wrote some stories based on his own in-game lore, which many fans interpreted to be canon. Jan. 7 (UPI) --Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige has tapped Loki writer and executive producer Michael Waldron to pen his upcoming Star Wars … And so, and headcanon can be awsome af, but it's gonna still be headcanon. More cryptical stuff, which actually isnt even that cryptic if you look into it. Starting out as a low-life pusher/junkie in the 1996 success Pusher (1996), he slowly grew to become one of Denmark's biggest movie actors.... See full bio » Published: 21:29 … Back before Morrowind, Bethesda Game Studios allowed their fans to write their lore (IIRC, the name of the Aedra "Akatosh" came from one of the old TES forum users, "Also Known As Tosh", or "Aka Tosh"). You dont even have to take into account that the et'Ada are actually literally ideas of the godhead, one does not have to go that far. It’s the intellectual property of Bethesda and it’s been that way since the first Elder Scrolls game. Star Wars, T, English, Adventure & Angst, chapters: 22, words: 88k+, favs: 397, follows: 514, updated: Sep 13 published: Jul 27, 2013, Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan K., Padmé Amidala I recently found this ongoing story. But whether he’s right or wrong is irrelevant. But come Morrowind they stopped this practice and stuck to their own writers. End of discussion. This "community" is still way smaller than all those out there, as me, who likes something completely different. To do so is to exclude everyone who doesn't understand it, including people like me who know a fair amount of "cannon lore" as n00bs. I like the stuff that MK did when he worked for Bethesda, but that doesn't mean we should trust some of the other stuff he wrote when he wasn't working for them anymore. By Dan Heching For Dailymail.com. What I mean here, for all those from the past or future who will read it, isn't that MK is shitty writer (this couldn't be further from reality!) All of our stories, all what we crafted when putting our time into the franchise suddenly becomes part of the story. He’s a consultant and contract worker. And in answer to how I really feel about Kirkbride, I dislike some of his non-canon works, especially the style of writing, and actually enjoy most of his canon works just as much as any other writer’s works, but I also have the sense to keep things in context. I understand that may not everyone's taste, as it takes some time to really get what he means, but that doesnt make it less valid. For example, video games, novels, comics, and movies about a fictional universe are usually separated into different continuities, so that they may all be canon without conflicting with each other. For new or casual fans this can be confusing because you’re being lied to. I understand that there are many unanswered questions in lore and that you think that Kirkbride’s works provide answers to those questions. I may try anyway; C0DA is not some space-story in TES some IL-and-Kirkbride haters make it out to be. Just like ideas, like desires, that everyone of us has, that may react to situations, that adapt to the situations we're in, that may offer solutions or ways to actually get what they propose - They are always, no matter what, bound to themselves, not able change their sphere and forced to act that way. Robots. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Fan_Interview_III. Just like gods, et'Ada ones at that, who are described as "robots" - this doesnt mean you should imagine them as metallic things resembling humanoid shapes. Despite what Michael Kirkbride says, no, the Elder Scrolls mythology/lore is not open source. I accept people's decisions to like MK's writings, but know this. Now that may sound totally alien, but thats because its supposed to be that way. Thats why he amazes so much people, because he is contributing so much to TES. In fact, i love some of the stuff he came up with when he was working for bethesda. It ultimately makes the game lore feel like quantum physics or something that only the most die hard lore fans can understand. I just don't see why everyone deifies him and accepts these concepts as some sort of goddam bible of TES lore. And concerning Bethesda and their relation to him, well, the Thalmor in Skyrim were his idea, Alduin obviously inherits alot from the Aldudagga, even the painted cows are there, Heimskr's speech, Septimus Signus screams to the lore community and he's friends with the autors, I dont think you can do that balance act more graciously than Bethesda does between including him and keeping him hidden, so there you have that. He only has as much influence as the development team allows, or rather requires, and then usually it’s with his own works. Yeah, I know, he had writed some stories for TES, but now he isn't at the team anymore, so I would say, his texts are fanfiction, aren't they? But as I said, Bethesda is a company and lore is intellectual property, so if they want to go against what Kirkbride had planned, they can and no one has any right to argue against them. Well, robots are per definition determined in what they do by the programming they received. And I personally hate all those pushing this headcanon as the real one. So should you. Michael Waldron, the writer and executive producer behind Disney Plus’ much-anticipated Loki series, has come on board to pen Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige-produced Star Wars movie. Sorry, but you sir, didnt get anything, really. I think some of you missunderstand what i'm saying. TL;DR - Who is Michael Kirkbride and why should I care?He’s a former writer for the Elder Scrolls games. Michael Kirkbride has been credited on games developed by the following companies: Bethesda Game Studios, Visceral Games (Redwood Shores), Bethesda Softworks LLC, Telltale, Inc., 7 Studios, Inc., LucasArts, Sega Studios San Francisco, Amaze Entertainment, Inc., … For example: the reason Vivec like that is also largely because of MK. And yes, while ES has always leaned more towards sic fi, the C0DAverse turns it into a goddam Star Wars ripoff. In turn, that also means that they are not free though. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. But in Sailor Moon, he was doing something too personal, too different from the original plan. Harold is right. Most Rated Video Games Since 1990; Favorite Video Game Rated at Least 9 Stars on IMDb Otherwise they would lose a lot of players and therefore a lot of $. And even if he is that’s also irrelevant.“You just don’t like Kirkbride’s works.”It doesn’t matter what I like. I hope you will answer my other questions when you have time - I really am trying to understand your position. It (I assume) was supposed to be an extension to the TES universe, but it feels more like and ugly growth that messes up an otherwise perfect face. Kirkbride’s independent works aren’t canon, no matter how much he associates them with in-game lore. Lore should belong to everyone, not some corporation.”Despite what Michael Kirkbride says, no, the Elder Scrolls mythology/lore is not open source. 36 Lessons of Vivec were written by MK, though I don't recall if he had a co-writer for it like in some of his other in-game books. Yare yare daze. Important stuff is, that Numidium, which only talks in empty speech bubbles, meaning it constantly negates the Aurbis' existence, is bested by Jubal, the story's hero, who follows Vivec's lessons and thus walked at least one way. By treating outside material as lore, you’re essentially promoting a popular theory about lore as lore itself. Let the users decide whether they think it fan-fiction or concrete lore. Tobias Quotes . The dots and scribbles are what Bethesda has confirmed to have happened; the blank spaces in between are the stuff that is in-game (in books or by character dialogue) that hasn't been confirmed as happening in one way or another, or, maybe, hasn't happened at all. Ikuhara is a great director who produced that masterpiece of an anime that is Shojou Kakumei Utena. And we mostly owe it to Kirkbride. Kirkbride's status in TES lore is kinda weird too. but that isn't the only way to describe a complex universe, working with vague concepts and so on. I do disregard most of his out-of-game writings as pure fan-fiction, unless Bethesda acknowledges them like they did with his writings about the many-headed Talos, as they aren't technically canon. Ask Me Anything. Loki creator Michael Waldron has reportedly been hired to write Kevin Feige’s Star Wars movie. But likewise, you shouldn’t force your beliefs on others, and that is what you’re doing when you treat Kirkbride’s works as lore. I don't mean in a sense like Star Wars which is fantasy set in a sci-fi-ish setting, but more like a more sci-fi take on fantasy. C0DA tells the story of an original timeline, that existed "before" (even if that is horribly inadequate) all the others. It's complication and ridiculous concepts make it impossibly harder for any normal human being to understand and come to terms with. It doesn’t matter if it answers something or not, it still can’t be considered lore.“If you don’t like what we have to say, then just ignore us.”When you tell people new to lore that Kirkbride’s works are lore, either through blatant lies or lies by omission, and when you add such content to wikis, that’s something that I can’t ignore.In closing, someone new to Elder Scrolls lore should be able to find out everything they need to know in the official material itself. But it doesn’t matter. You’re treating an answer as canon, as THE answer. Sup n’wahs, First, let me pimp some TES-related projects I’m working on, because this is my very special hour and I am filthy with power. Kevin Feige's Star Wars movie has tapped Michael Waldron, the writer of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and creator of Loki, to pen the script. To do so is to exclude everyone who doesn't understand it, including people like me who know a fair amount of "cannon lore" as n00bs. Clearly TES Lore isn't based on a single strong canon, but there MUST be the difference between objective canon (es: Uriel Septim VII dies at the start of Oblivion, thus triggering the Crysis of the Oblivion and ecc) and fan-canon (es: MK's works out of the rigid canon). It's complication and ridiculous concepts make it impossibly harder for any normal human being to understand and come to terms with. et'Ada resemble that. Bethesda would have to be high to incorporate any of them into they're games. Some, I'd say most, of his out-of-game writings are weird and to me most of those make things overly complicated or too over the top for my taste. Memory is dying off as well, people are forgetting who they are. I’ve seen the alleged police report before, but cannot seem to find it now, and it’s highly possible that it was fabricated to add to the long standing rumors. Remember that Marvel Studios' boss Kevin Feige is developing and executive producing a new Star Wars movie?Well, that little mystery project has finally found some momentum. Michael Kirkbride - Reddit AMA. But you should have the information in the German Wiki, but I think you should make note that it comes from an out-of-game source that may or may not be actual canon TES lore. Most fictional universes have a set of canon material, usually coming from the original medium. According to Deadline, Feige originated the project and is producing with Lucasfilm, headed by … There’s supposedly a police report to support the latter theory, involving a possession charge for a Michael Kirkbride in Bethesda, Maryland. Important stuff is that Aka(tosh) is totally broken by the permanent presence of the activated Numidium, and linear time has ceased to exist. FUCK YEAH I WROTE LINES FOR DARTH VADER. Star Wars mythology does have parallels in real-world religion, including a point I was going to give related specifically to what you mentioned, but I will respect your wishes and refrain. It's incredible, as no franchise has done anything similiar in a similiar fashion yet. I like the stuff that MK did when he worked for Bethesda, but that doesn't mean we should trust some of the other stuff he wrote when he wasn't working for them anymore. It ultimately makes the game lore feel like quantum physics or something that only the most die hard lore fans can understand. That's how it works. So don't expect TES VI to be crawling with references from kirkblade's works. And yes, while ES has always leaned more towards sic fi, the C0DAverse turns it into a goddam Star Wars ripoff. Why? While he hasn't worked for BGS since 2003, they still hire him for small periods (he wrote the plot for the Knights of the Nine expansion), and they'll occasionally take his writings and put them in a game (see: Heimskr's dialogue in Skyrim). Leaving things undetermined is good, as long as the writer is capable of explaining them to the reader in a more subtle way. Hey. But it should also be mentioned that they come from an out-of-game source that isn't confirmed as canon lore. That last paragraph was just to point out hypocrisy. Was the ‘Trial of Vivec’ RP (which culminated in the banishing of Azura from Mundus) a semi-official conclusion of the Morrowind storyline, or can we expect to learn more of its connection to recent events, along with the true fate of Vivec/Vehk?”A: “Remember that only things that have been published in Elder Scrolls games should be considered official lore.”Source: Oblivion Fan Interview III, Question #30http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Fan_Interview_IIISo there ya go. But it makes the lore so much more rich and the franchise so much more unique than anything else. P.P.S. Did know that the uniqueness of TES that you talk about is largely due to MK? A multiverse is a result of the infinite possibilities that are born from Free Will. Anyways, TES lore is original enough without it. Nu-Mantia Intercept, Love Letter from the Fifth Era, etc.) To do so is to exclude everyone who doesn't understand it, including people like me who know a fair amount of "cannon lore" as n00bs. Comparing C0DA to Star Wars is so incredibly inaccurate and inadequate as well, I dont know what to answer here. The elder scrolls world has it's own unique set of physics and logic that no other fantasy world has. Star Wars film produced by Marvel president Kevin Feige to be written by Loki and Doctor Strange 2 scribe Michael Waldron. He was born in Østerbro, Copenhagen, to Bente Christiansen, a nurse, and Henning Mikkelsen, a banker. Bethesda would have to be high to incorporate any of them into they're games. Michael Kirkbride, Writer: Batman: The Enemy Within. :) I'm an Administrator of the German The Elder Scrolls Wiki and because of that I've got a question. Why? That "robot" Pelinal isn't the one that existed in the real universe, CHIM isn't the only way to describe the reality of the universe of TES and so on. Your theory might even be right. Mar 4, 2016 - Explore Becker & Mayer Book Producer's board "Becker & Mayer Books" on Pinterest. 2 yeats after but.. it doesn't change a bit the detail that those works are NOT IN-UNIVERSE CANON. They shouldn’t have to look through esoteric texts and consult the high priests of Michael Kirkbride’s online cult only to be misled into thinking they’re learning about real lore. Think of the Elder Scrolls canon as a piece of paper. For example, unused material such as concept art, bonus material, and altered or cut material is usually not canon.“No one can own the Elder Scrolls mythology. So yeah, all Elder Scrolls Wikis should mention his out-of-game writings. Bethesda would have to be high to incorporate any of them into they're games. Metaphors are more important than anything else, associations, and knowing of background. That means they can totally act on their own, they can make decisions, they are able to do things better than humans in a lot of cases. et'Ada are ideas personified in TES, able to act, to react and to scheme as well as practically everything else. They cant even desire that, they are - basically - robots. We may interchange human and mortal as well as robot and et'Ada - Pelinal was partly human, partly robot. In comparison with Oblivion and Skyrim, which are very "medieval Europe", Morrowind is clearly some kind of UFO. Many also have different types of canon. I just don't see why everyone deifies him and accepts these concepts as some sort of goddam bible of TES lore. His fans will go on forums and edit wikis to reflect his writings not only as being canon but as being definitive answers. I’m glad you wrote this. I was very proud of my short stint on Star Wars. I would be so grateful, because that's actually the only problem (but a big one) in our community and as I said, nearly no one every heard about this .. obscure lore. I'm really not sure, so I'm asking this in your Wiki where I can't find information about this stuff. Rather it means that et'Ada are like robots. Numidium has destroyed pretty much everything and people are living on the moons. MKirkbride: I was very proud of my short stint on Star Wars. The artists, writers, and other developers for the game’s content and lore don’t own what they create, because they’re being paid to create it for Bethesda’s use.“Kirkbride wrote most of the lore, so you should accept his works.”He wrote part of it, not all of it. However, I don't think that makes ALL his writings canon. Anyways, TES lore is original enough without it. He was an avatar of Aka and Lorkhan, making him totally insane. It doesn't fit the atmosphere of the elder scrolls universe. :-). Michael Waldron, creator of the upcoming Disney+ series Loki, will write the new Star Wars movie. I am Michael Kirkbride. If you’ve not seen the lower case c0da stuff, you really should; the artists on them deserve some recognition and a wider audience. A user brought Michael Kirkbride('s Lore) in our Wiki and (re)writed articles like Aka-Tusk (Akatosh,..) or Talos. It doesn’t matter who it’s from or what it says; it’s not lore and I can’t treat it as such. Talos changes back into Lorkhan, and his heart is restored - but not the Morrowind one, rather it's replaced by Aka. MK lore doesn't have that. They may only ever act according to what they are, and they cannot change that. If it isn't placed into the game, it isn't canon. There's some big Star Wars and Marvel news here, as Kevin Feige has tapped Loki's Michael Waldron to pen his movie set in a Galaxy Far, Far Away before he … He's probably just trolling the fan community. Because they are not individuals, they are ideas. It doesn't fit the atmosphere of the elder scrolls universe. Michael Kirkbride's posts from 2007 to 2009 On the nature of Pelinal (09/23/07): Re: Pelinal, his closest mythical model would be Gilgamesh, with a dash of a T-800 thrown in, and a full-serving of brain-fracture slaughterhouse antinomial (Kill)3 functions stuck in his hand or head. Just like with Sailor Moon and Ikuhara. Game credits for Star Wars: The Force Unleashed - Ultimate Sith Edition (Windows) database containing game description & game shots, cover art, credits, groups, press, forums, reviews and more. So don't expect TES VI to be crawling with references from kirkblade's works. It’s always been a team of people behind the lore. I've noticed that a lot of your work has sci-fi undertones in it. 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